In this episode, Jay Barrett from Barrett Pressure Washing shares his journey in the industry and how his grandfather’s principles influenced his approach to the business.

Jay trained extensively in lift safety, chemical safety and chemical interactions to apply best practices and safe operations in pressure washing jobs which he believes sets him apart from his competition.

He discusses that he doesn’t start a job unless he knows exactly how it’s going to work out, a lesson imparted by his grandfather. Jay also mentions the importance of kindness as a mantra for both business and personal life.

00:00 Introduction and Welcoming Jay Barrett

00:18 Learning Business from Grandfather

00:47 Starting Barrett Pressure Washing

01:13 Getting into the Pressure Washing Business

02:14 Differentiating from Other Pressure Washers

03:39 Lessons from Grandfather

05:03 Grandfather’s Influence and Legacy

06:42 High Standards and Quality Control

07:46 Applying Grandfather’s Lessons in Business

08:37 Grandfather’s Gift of Wisdom

10:26 Working with Family in Business

10:46 Overcoming Challenges in Family Business

12:40 Grandfather’s Impact on Business Approach

16:28 Competitive Advantage in the Industry

18:43 Importance of Research and Preparation

23:55 Contact Information and Closing Remarks

You can reach Jay and learn more at https://barrettpressurewashing.com or call 888-658-WASH

Transcript
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John and Connie Kuder: Today, we are

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celebrating Jay Barrett and by proxy, his

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grandfather, of Barrett Pressure Washing.

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Hi, Jay.

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How are you doing?

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Hello.

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I'm doing well.

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How are you?

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John and Connie Kuder:

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Welcome to the party.

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Yeah!.

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Thank you.

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John and Connie Kuder: So, this is

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a little bit unusual for our podcast

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because we're normally interviewing two

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family members and, uh, but when we had

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a, a, chat, everything you learned about

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running a business and, and the quality

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in business, I believe was, you know, that

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you had learned from your grandfather.

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when you were younger.

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And so I thought, wow,

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let's talk about that.

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Let's see what, um.

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what, you learned about it from

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your grandmother and we could share.

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So, , first, I don't want to

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like get things out of order, but

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whatever, your current business

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is Barrett Pressure Washing

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It is

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Barrett Pressure Washing

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John and Connie Kuder: In St.

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Petersburg, Florida, right?

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Yes, I cover Pinellas

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County, Hillsborough County,

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Manatee County, Southern Pasco.

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John and Connie Kuder: But you

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didn't start in Florida, did you?

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I did not.

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I am from Maine.

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I am a Mainer.

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John and Connie Kuder: And so how did you

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get into the pressure washing business?

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So, uh, pressure washing

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and exterior cleaning was something

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that a former employer, I was an

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operations manager for a very large

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commercial facility management company,

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And without going into huge detail,

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pressure washing and exterior cleaning

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and maintenance of commercial buildings

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was one of the services that we offer.

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So, in order for me as the operations

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manager and to instruct other managers

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and employees on the best operations

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and how to do it safely, those kinds

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of things, uh, did extensive training,

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uh, in, lift safety, chemical safety,

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chemical interactions, those types

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of things, uh, in order to, best to

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instruct those employees on safe practices

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and how best to do those cleanings.

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So that's how I got started.

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John and Connie Kuder: Okay.

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So that's a whole different level

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than, the person that's, mounts a

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pressure washing pump on their, on

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their truck and, goes to the pool

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store and buy some chlorine and sets

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themselves up in business, right?

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I mean, it's way different.

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It is.

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I have a much different background

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than a lot of people in my industry.

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I find that.

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Lots of guys in my industry, uh,

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started pressure washing because they

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maybe didn't want to have a full time

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job or maybe they do it on the side.

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It's their side hustle.

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They do it on weekends, you

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know, something like that.

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Uh, I come from a very, um, uh, I

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guess professional background where,

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you know, I've had the certifications,

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done certification classes, and,

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uh, I really enjoyed The, the work.

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So, you know, backing up a bit as the

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operations manager wasn't supposed to be

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doing labor, but found myself doing lots

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of labor when we had these large scale

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pressure washing jobs going up on the

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lifts, you know, with the harnesses and

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being, uh, toggled into the, to the lift

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and having these big 30 foot extension

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lawns that we were using to clean.

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I mean, it was just so much fun for me.

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John and Connie Kuder:

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Boys and their toys.

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That's all I can think of..

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Right, right.

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John and Connie Kuder: Okay.

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So now your grandfather.

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I know you said you learned a lot,

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earlier days from your grandfather.

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How does that kind of connect

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back to what you learned from your

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grandfather and what did you learn?

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Tell me about your granddad

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and your relationship with him.

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Well, so, I

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mean, about my grandfather, my

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grandfather was a Navy veteran.

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You know, he was, uh, in World War

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II, very, very, you know, my memories

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of him, very, very meticulous man,

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very organized, and I mean, like,

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over the top obsessive organized.

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And I have this clock here, right there,

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and I, you know, I can tell you the

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date that my grandfather got that clock.

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Do you know why?

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Because he wrote it on

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the back of the clock.

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Not only that, but there's also

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dates on that clock of every time

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he changed the battery since 1986.

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When he got the clock.

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So, he was, you know, one of those

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people who journaled every day about the

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weather, you know, the news of the time.

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Uh, you know, not personal

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journaling at all.

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It was very much structured of

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what the weather was, what was

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going on, those types of things.

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Maybe his to do list of

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the day, things like that.

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So he was a very, very organized person.

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And, he taught me, first and foremost,

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how to have a very, strong work ethic.

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And how to do things to perfection.

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So my, , some of my earlier memories of

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him was, or working for him was mowing

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his lawn and after I was done mowing

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his lawn, he would go around with a

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yardstick and actually measure different

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points of the yard to make sure that I

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had not missed any parts of the lawn.

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When I would do snow removal for him,

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he would go around and inspect to make

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sure that every little inch of asphalt

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had been uncovered and scraped down

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so there was no possibility of ice

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forming on any part of that asphalt.

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So he was, it was very overbearing, but

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at this, you know, and I kind of resented

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it when I was young, but You know, fast

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forwarding to now, I have that in me to

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do a job to literal perfection, where I

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am not satisfied until the job is perfect.

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And it kind of suits what I do for

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work because in a lot of trades

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there are kind of gray areas,

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but in cleaning there's no gray.

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Something's either dirty or it's clean.

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And it's either, you know,

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all clean or it's not clean.

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So that's one example of something that

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he definitely taught me in business.

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John and Connie Kuder: Nice.

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Nice.

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So really high standards, quality

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control and high standards.

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Very, very high standards.

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Yes.

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John and Connie Kuder: Did you find

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that that was, um, very supportive of

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when, when you got into the facilities

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management and you were doing these

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certifications and, and, you know,

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and getting that, you know, much more

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professional training in, in those,

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uh, you know, operating all that

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equipment, the chemicals and everything.

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Did that background really serve you?

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Oh, absolutely.

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So, I mean, as another example, um,

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as he was getting older, you know, his

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hands weren't working quite as well.

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He had really, really bad

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arthritis in his fingers.

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And he, uh, also sold used cars as

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a, you know, kind of a side hustle.

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And.

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Wasn't able to actually do the work.

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So would have, you know, would sit back in

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his chair and have me, you know, doing the

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operations on the, on the car and fixing

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the cars, but, you know, telling me why.

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Things went in a certain order like you

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have to remove this piece before you

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can get to this piece And you know, it's

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very important that you know, you don't

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you know Go over here and and mess with

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this part because you know You're gonna

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open up a whole can of worms that you

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so, you know things like that, which

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yes really served me in especially

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in management where you're trying to

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convey order of operations and systems

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to employees and and conveying the

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importance of those and explaining, you

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know, why these things are important.

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So yeah, I mean, absolutely.

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And again, another thing that I really

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resented when I was young, and I

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was like, Oh man, this guy's a jerk.

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But you know, he was really

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teaching me something.

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And A lot of people

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laugh at this story too.

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So when I was, when I graduated

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from high school, lots of my family

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were giving me gifts and money and,

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you know, just a real celebration.

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And my, my grandfather gave me

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this card and in it was written

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10 keys to a successful life.

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And it was I get a little, you

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know, choked up when I think about

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it, but it was, keeping your

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credit good and when to pay your

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bills and , just things like that.

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And then at the bottom it was

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always take care of your mother.

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And, you know, it's just, it was a

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really, it's one thing that, and I

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don't have the card anymore because, um,

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unfortunately I lost it in the fire, but

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it, it's something that I still remember

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all of those things that were in there

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and, you know, wish that I would have

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maybe taken it more into consideration

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when I graduated from high school, not,

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you know, when I was in my 30s and 40s.

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John and Connie Kuder: No

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18-year-old understands anything.

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So it sounds like it was very, it

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sounds like it was very important

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yes.

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Yes.

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John and Connie Kuder: That he that

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he conveyed to you, you know, that

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he shared with you what he felt was

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most valuable, which wasn't cash.

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Or a gift.

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It was the gift of his wisdom of what

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he had learned, you know, here's here's

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what's going to make your life better.

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Yes, absolutely.

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John and Connie Kuder: And you probably

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don't remember any of the other gifts.

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I don't I

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well, no, that's not true.

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I got a sony stereo that

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John and Connie Kuder: That was

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pretty awesome, but still that the

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one thing went into your heart.

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Yeah.

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Oh yeah, absolutely.

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Absolutely.

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John and Connie Kuder: We want to stick

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with our theme of family business.

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So in working with your grandfather,

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what are some things that you

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learned about working with family?

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You know, What what was it?

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What were the strengths of,

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of, working with family rather

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than just having a boss?

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And were there any challenges

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that you remember, you know,

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dealing with and overcoming?

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Well, yeah, I mean,

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so working with him, there was, as

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opposed to a boss, there was a lot more

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fostering, you know, going on, you know,

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a lot more, uh, a lot more attention,

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you know, I got, you know, really good

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instruction and really was there to

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help me every step of the way, you know,

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and As far as challenges go, I mean,

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it was me being a young, young kid and

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him being an old man and very stubborn

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and stuck in his ways and he wasn't,

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uh, he didn't have abusive language or

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anything like that, but he, very stern.

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You know, when you weren't doing things

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right, that very stern voice would come

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out, , you're not, this isn't right, this

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isn't the way you're supposed to do this.

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It wasn't, you know, like a boss might do

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where, , you tried and that's great, but

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, here's the way we'd like to see it done.

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No, it was, "No, you're

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not doing that right.

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You got to do it right or

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you can't do it anymore."

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So, , and that was a big challenge.

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John and Connie Kuder: Okay.

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Yeah.

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So that's kind of typical family

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stuff , where a lot of times

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we dispense with the niceties.

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uh, we don't show our family members

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necessarily the same courtesy

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that we would show, a non family

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member, an employee or employer.

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Obviously if you talk to a boss like that,

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you'd probably get fired pretty quick.

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Yeah, right.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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John and Connie Kuder: Very cool.

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The other thing that you brought

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up was that the two generations,

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you know, a lot of people that

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work together in family businesses,

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they're just one generation apart.

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It's, a daughter and father,

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father, son, that kind of thing.

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So that that generation skip

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is a little bit wider age gap.

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And so, , you brought that up.

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Um, so.

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any any other thoughts about, it?

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Yeah.

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So it was, , him coming from, and I think

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a lot of it had to do with his military

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background, you know, very, very rigid,

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very, very, very, um, no room for error,

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you know, there are certain steps that

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need to be taken to accomplish whatever

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it is, even if it was mowing the lawn.

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There was a, there was a class

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involved in me mowing the lawn.

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It wasn't just, here's the mower.

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It was, you know, you got to know

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where the cotter pins are and how to

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change the blades and how to change the

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oil and how to change the pull cord.

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And, you know, you got to know

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about the machine before you

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can even push the thing, right?

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So it was.

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It was, uh, you know, a total knowledge

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of everything that you could possibly

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need to know in order to cut a blade of

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grass and cut them all evenly, right?

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So, and me, I've always

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been, , kind of aloof, right?

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You know, I'm, uh, I'm very laid back

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and very easygoing and, I'm into that

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type of lifestyle and I'm not, my

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personality isn't built like that, but him

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instilling that in me makes it possible

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for me to be like that in business.

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So I can separate, my personality from

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who I need to be and what I need to do

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in order to run a successful business

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and in order to, you know, be able to

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manage employees like I used to, and,

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you know, be able to, uh, effectively

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convey instruction and things like that.

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So, but the.

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It didn't come without its battles, right?

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I wasn't always the happy, you know,

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Okay, Grandpa, you know, that wasn't me.

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You know, I would fight it.

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I would fight it, and he would get mad,

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and you know, there would be, you know,

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a little silence there, and you know,

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but then it would come back together.

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As far as the generation gap, I think

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that was probably the biggest, and

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the military background, you know.

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I think that really affected his The way

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that he was with, with life in general.

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John and Connie Kuder: Well, and when

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was he roughly, when was he born?

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Do you remember?

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In the twenties.

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So yeah, he was,

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John and Connie Kuder: okay, so he

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had lived through some hard times.

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Oh yeah.

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John and Connie Kuder: And plus, war

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time and uh, that was no small thing.

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And so, yeah, I think that that

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gave people an edge, that, us

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baby boomers , and beyond,

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I count myself as a baby boomer, you

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know, that that were born after World

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War II, um, haven't just haven't

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lived through, haven't experienced.

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So, um, to add to that,

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you know, I think now that I have

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my own business and the only person

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that I'm accountable to is myself

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and, you know, I don't have a boss

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and I don't have employees yet.

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Um, it's, it's given me that, you know,

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somebody said to me, a peer of mine,

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uh, who is getting out of this business.

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Uh, and I've been talking to him

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about acquiring his customer base

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and, you know, in talking with him

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and I've worked with him a little bit.

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And he's an, he's also

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an older, uh, gentleman.

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He's in his sixties now.

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And what he said to me was, you know,

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I feel like you're above this industry.

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And I kind of was like, well, and I

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think what he meant was, is that I have.

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So much knowledge of, you know, practices

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and, and chemicals, and chemical

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interactions, and, you know, how to, what

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chemical neutralizes another chemical,

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and how do they interact, and how do they

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interact when they're put on a particular

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surface, whether it be metal, or wood, or

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concrete, or plastic, You know, because

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they all interact differently and what's

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best for each application and, and, you

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know, a lot of these guys are calling,

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um, cleaning chemicals by their brand

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names, where I am talking about, you know,

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what they're, what they're composed of.

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And I really think that it doesn't

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put me above the industry, but it

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puts me above my competition for sure.

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Like, straight up, that's my biggest

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competitive advantage is that I have that

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that knack for just, and it's not a knack.

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It's, well, if I could show you

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my notebook the other day, because

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people always ask me, you know, well,

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what do you know about chemistry?

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You know, so I started writing in my

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notebook and I just, you know, started

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with a chemical, oxalic acid, and I just

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started writing things that I know about.

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You know, and that's my geek out, right?

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Like SDS sheets is my geek out,

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you know, I know how to read them.

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I know how to, you know, interpret them.

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I know how to find, I know how to

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find lies, you know, where chemical

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manufacturers will say, well, this is

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biodegradable and I can go and look

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at the SDS sheet and I say, Oh, well,

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it says right here that you can't,

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you shouldn't put it down a drain.

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And I've, and I've called

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vendors out on this before.

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It's, it's, you know,

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just part of what I do.

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So when you talk about, you know, what do

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you bring to the table as far as, um, you

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know, your industry, that is by far, and

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I, and I learned that from my grandfather,

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you know, you don't do, you don't push the

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mower until you know how to fix it, until

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you know how it runs, until you know,

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you know, how to cut a blade of grass.

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And, and that's the same

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way with pressure washing.

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I do not do a job unless I 100

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percent know from start to finish

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exactly how it's going to work out.

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And I will get on the computer or open

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a book and I will research exactly

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what I need to do, if I don't know

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already, what I need to do from start to

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finish to make sure that when I'm done,

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that that job is absolutely perfect.

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And he taught me that.

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John and Connie Kuder: That's awesome.

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Yeah.

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John and Connie Kuder: Yeah, I'm,

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confident that that is, is your, you

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know, professional differentiator

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for sure within the industry.

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and that, that kind of knowledge

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I think is very uncommon uh, to,

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to have that level, the depth the,

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depth and the, the breadth and

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the certifications to go with it.

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We have had in our previous,

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uh, homeownership, our

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(house), um, pressure washed.

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and it wasn't pretty.

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Uh, so one of my, one

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of my things is I take pictures.

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I take pictures of damage whenever

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I'm walking or driving somewhere

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and I see a driveway that's damaged.

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I'll, I'll snap a picture of it.

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And you know, there, it's very widespread.

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And, and I, and I think, well, if

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you take, um, a driveway, a paver

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driveway, for instance, and a normal

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on average paver driveway to install

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is anywhere from $50 - $80,000.

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So why, why then would you take that

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$50 - $80,000 investment and spend

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it on, you know, the maintenance on

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somebody who doesn't have any sort of

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background in the industry, doesn't have

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the knowledge of the chemicals that he's

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using, or how it's going to interact

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with your particular, , environment?

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Uh, is using chemicals that are dangerous

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to not only the applicator, the person

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who's using these chemicals, but to

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everything around it, only to pay a

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few hundred dollars less when you're

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talking about an $80,000 driveway.

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Why would you spend, $150 for somebody

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to clean it and seal it when you could

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hire somebody who you know will do a

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good job, who will own it until it's

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done, and pay a little extra money?

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I mean, it's, uh, it's a no brainer for

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me, and trying to convey that out into

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the world has been my biggest challenge.

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John and Connie Kuder: Sure,

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Sure, Yeah, I understand.

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Because it's, it's that, um, well, it's

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just overcoming the general ignorance.

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I mean, most of us, I think in, in,

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you know, in almost any, um, service

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and a lot of products that we buy we

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don't buy them that often and we don't

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we really don't know how to buy them.

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You know, what I mean, how do I go, how

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do I buy a professional service and,

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how do I compare one against another?

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That's, I think that's a challenge service

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providers to, to deal with and overcome

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and the ones that can do it and convey,

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communicate that successfully, uh, you

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know, I think are going to dominate.

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So kudos to you for continuing to do that.

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And, and to follow in your

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grandfather's footsteps.

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that's that's quite amazing.

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Yeah.

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Is there anything, um, so one of the

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questions we like to answer, anything

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about, and, and, you know, feel free

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to, but anything about family business

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that you know, now that you wish you'd

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known when you started, I know you're,

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you're right now a solopreneur, but,

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um, yeah, I'm trying to think how to

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pivot that, like, I know you were a kid

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when you worked with your grandfather.

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What is there, is there

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anything there anything?

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you know now, uh, that, you know,

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if, if you had been a little

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older or or if you guys were, you

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know, one generation apart vs.

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two that you could, you could, draw

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more from what he, his example?

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Um, I mean it, so if

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we take the, you know, being in

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business for myself aspect away from

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it, it would've been to, if I could

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have done something differently.

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It would have been to really solidify

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my work history earlier in my life.

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Um, and been more responsible with,

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you know, my employment and things

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like that, you know, before I had

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the, the operations manager job, I

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was, you know, all over the place.

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I would do this for a while and quit,

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do this for a while and quit and

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never really took that responsibility.

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And, um, so I guess if I had something

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to learn, um, you know, just that I

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would have done that differently and, you

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know, maybe I would be someplace else.

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And, but, you know, I'm very content

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on where I am now and looking forward

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to this year and my business growing.

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John and Connie Kuder: Well, so,

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um, how, where can people, how can

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people, get ahold of you if they're,

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if they're looking for your services,

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pressure washing, uh, that protects

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the environment and gets it done right?

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So, uh, my website

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is barrettpressurewashing.

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com.

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John and Connie Kuder: That's

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Barrett with two R's, two T's, right?

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Barrett

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with two R's and two T's.

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And my phone number is 888

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658 WASH, which is 9274.

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John and Connie Kuder: Awesome.

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Cool.

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And

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I'll just, uh, in case somebody when

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somebody goes to your website and they,

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uh, see your little, um, video, audio

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commercial, um, I wanted to,

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you know, mention that I know

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that you sang, sang that so that

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you're the voice in your Jingle,

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that's what it

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was.

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I am.

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John and Connie Kuder: He's,

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multi- talented, guys yeah.

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You are.

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You've been so much fun to learn about.

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We've enjoyed your friendship.

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Talented.

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Look at that.

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John and Connie Kuder: Who knew?

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All right.

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That's right.

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Any last thoughts or words of

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wisdom before we wrap this up?

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I mean, so, you know,

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my mantra lately has just been No

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matter what just be kind to people,

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you know And uh, it helps in business.

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It helps in personal life.

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It helps in everything Uh, it helps

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when you go into the grocery store

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and somebody wants to cut you in line,

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you know, just be kind to people.

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John and Connie Kuder: Well, you don't

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know what stress they're going under also.

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Great advice.

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Yeah, very true.

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Very true and be kind

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to the earth Be kind to the earth.

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John and Connie Kuder: There you go

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yeah without it.

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There are no more issues

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John and Connie Kuder: Right

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Jay, thank you so much

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for spending this time

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with us.

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We appreciate it.

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And, uh, we look forward to

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it's always

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fun with you guys.

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John and Connie Kuder: Thanks

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Look forward to seeing you again soon.

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All right.

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John and Connie Kuder: Bye.

Jay Barrett:

Take care.

Jay Barrett:

Thank you.

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